Osama Bin Laden is dead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256676

just thought some of you might want to know if you dont watch the news much. not sure what i think about this yet, it would have been best if we captured him but thats not always possible. not looking forward to the retaliate of Al Queada.

lol you'd have to be blind and deaf to not know about this, though its still not as big news as the royal wedding in terms of coverage

not sure how much of this i believe until i see photos and dna evidence.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/5/2/1304329535701/An-image-purporting-to-sh-004.jpg

Photo of Osama Bin Laden before and after he was shot. These photo are in the newspaper and its apparantly him. But I still not sure if it really is him or not.

unless he's had plastic surgery thats not him, he was never going to be taken alive as he would have been made a marter, also i think he was burried at sea so people couldnt make a shrine to him at his grave

Yup I also think the photo are fake. But I not sure if he dead or not.

even if it is him, someone else'll just take his place

it seems to be just another war of attrition

no question that photos are fake. u can see the same textures, bits of background and bruising/bloodstains repeated in both pictures.

but its definitely him who was killed today. why else would his family and courier be there?

No wrote:

unless he's had plastic surgery thats not him, he was never going to be taken alive as he would have been made a marter, also i think he was burried at sea so people couldnt make a shrine to him at his grave

the thing is he probably will have had surgery but he will also have look alikes just as Saddam Hussein did. also unless he shot himself i find it highly likely they would have been given orders to capture. apparently he refused to surrender and they shot him twice why not just blow his arms or something if he was wielding a weapon

bujj wrote:

even if it is him, someone else'll just take his place

it seems to be just another war of attrition

yep and they are only going to get worse

jcb94 wrote:

no question that photos are fake. u can see the same textures, bits of background and bruising/bloodstains repeated in both pictures.

but its definitely him who was killed today. why else would his family and courier be there?

why would he use the same courier for so long and live in a mansion in a huge compound less than a km from the central army base of the pakistani army if he was trying to stay hidden

De foto van een verminkte man, zogezegd Osama bin Laden, die maandag verspreid werd door Pakistaanse televisiezenders en overal ter wereld overgenomen werd, is vals. Dat hebben de Pakistaanse media toegegeven. De foto werd 'uit de lucht' gehaald.

Meerdere zenders hadden de foto verspreid, maar maakten tegelijkertijd duidelijk dat ze niet konden garanderen dat de persoon op de foto met zekerheid de gedode leider van al-Qaida was.

'Het ging inderdaad om een valse foto, die in 2009 al op internet circuleerde', bevestigde Rana Jawad van Geo TV, de populairste televisiezender van Pakistan.

'Toen we de foto verspreid hebben, hebben we gezegd dat we niet zeker waren van de authenticiteit van het beeld. Vervolgens hebben we de foto nagetrokken en, omdat het om een vals beeld bleek te gaan, van het scherm gehaald', besloot hij.

Ook alle andere kanalen haalden de foto van hun scherm. De foto toonde het bebloede en gedeeltelijk verminkte gezicht van een man met een ruige zwarte baard. Het Franse persagentschap AFP kon aan de hand van een softwareprogramma ook al aantonen dat de foto getrukeerd was. Daarvoor werd de baard en het onderste gedeelte van Bin Ladens gezicht van een oudere foto overgenomen.

'De baard is vaag. Je ziet duidelijk dat het om een montage gaat', aldus Mladen Antonov, de chef van de fotoredactie van AFP. Het persagentschap heeft de foto intussen als vals aangeboden en de trucage uitgelegd.

Tot op dit moment is er nog geen enkele foto van de dode Bin Laden gepubliceerd.



The picture of a mutilated man, allegedly Osama bin Laden, which was distributed Monday by Pakistani television channels worldwide and was acquired, is fake. That the Pakistani media have admitted. The picture was "off the air 'met.

Several stations had the photo spread, but simultaneously made clear that they could not guarantee that the person in the picture with certainty the slain leader of al-Qaeda was.

"It was indeed a false picture, which in 2009 already circulated on the Internet," confirmed Rana Jawad of Geo TV, Pakistan's most popular television channel.

"When we have the photo spread, we said that we were not sure of the authenticity of the image. Then we checked the photo and, because it turned out to be a false image of the screen removed, "he concluded.

All other channels took the picture of their screen. The picture showed the bloodied and partially mutilated face of a man with a shaggy black beard. The French news agency AFP was using a software program even prove that the photo was manipulated. Therefore, the beard and the lower part of bin Laden's vision of an old photograph taken.

"The beard is vague. You can clearly see that it is an assembly, "said Mladen Antonov, the head of the photo editors of AFP. The news agency has the picture now presented as false and tricks explained.

Up to this moment there is no photo of the dead bin Laden published.



sorry for the ton of mistakes, was too lazy to do it myself so i used google translator

[quote="C.R.A.F.T."]

No wrote:

unless he's had plastic surgery thats not him, he was never going to be taken alive as he would have been made a marter, also i think he was burried at sea so people couldnt make a shrine to him at his grave

the thing is he probably will have had surgery but he will also have look alikes just as Saddam Hussein did. also unless he shot himself i find it highly likely they would have been given orders to capture. apparently he refused to surrender and they shot him twice why not just blow his arms or something if he was wielding a weapon

The reason I think they were never going to take him alive is if the had of taken him alive there would have been hundreds of deaths already and the call for his realise from his supporters but now that he's dead they have lost there figure head. Yes somebody will setup and take his place but they now know the will be found ( eventually)

Sorry the quote thing didn't work cos I'm on my phone

DNA tests are done confirming it is him.

he has been buried at sea becasue his home country (saudi arabia) will not accept his body and neither will pakistan or afghanistan

he actually used a woman at the compound as a human shield who died as they shot him.

he used the one courier for so long because it was just one guy in the whole of pakistan so would have thought theyd find him, remember it has been 10 years since we started searching.

karriu wrote:

DNA tests are done confirming it is him.

he has been buried at sea becasue his home country (saudi arabia) will not accept his body and neither will pakistan or afghanistan

he actually used a woman at the compound as a human shield who died as they shot him.

he used the one courier for so long because it was just one guy in the whole of pakistan so would have thought theyd find him, remember it has been 10 years since we started searching.

lol i was about to say that bit about no countries accepting his body so he can buried with 24hrs (muslim tradition i think). what did you mean about the courier?
craft, the reason he used the same courier for so long is because he trusted him more than anyone else. also, the idea of living close to the enemy is quite clever in a way because its like reverse psychology and the pakistani army would never think of finding him so close to their own base.

jcb94 wrote:

karriu wrote:

DNA tests are done confirming it is him.

he has been buried at sea becasue his home country (saudi arabia) will not accept his body and neither will pakistan or afghanistan

he actually used a woman at the compound as a human shield who died as they shot him.

he used the one courier for so long because it was just one guy in the whole of pakistan so would have thought theyd find him, remember it has been 10 years since we started searching.

lol i was about to say that bit about no countries accepting his body so he can buried with 24hrs (muslim tradition i think). what did you mean about the courier?
craft, the reason he used the same courier for so long is because he trusted him more than anyone else. also, the idea of living close to the enemy is quite clever in a way because its like reverse psychology and the pakistani army would never think of finding him so close to their own base.

Plus pakistan is one of the most courupt countries in the world when it comes to terrorism, I bet some people got paid allot of money to turn a blind eye on what that building was being used for.

jcb94 wrote:

karriu wrote:

DNA tests are done confirming it is him.

he has been buried at sea becasue his home country (saudi arabia) will not accept his body and neither will pakistan or afghanistan

he actually used a woman at the compound as a human shield who died as they shot him.

he used the one courier for so long because it was just one guy in the whole of pakistan so would have thought theyd find him, remember it has been 10 years since we started searching.

lol i was about to say that bit about no countries accepting his body so he can buried with 24hrs (muslim tradition i think). what did you mean about the courier?
craft, the reason he used the same courier for so long is because he trusted him more than anyone else. also, the idea of living close to the enemy is quite clever in a way because its like reverse psychology and the pakistani army would never think of finding him so close to their own base.

i mean most terrorist leaders use a complex network of couriers to safely transport messages but by using just one it would have been reverse psychology, like you said

Fuck It!

If the cunts dead Yaba Daba Doo! They may retaliate but at least their inspiration has been killed!

Hes still alive untill is ee the raw footage of him getting 2 slugs in the bake.

yeah there is gunna be loads on conspiracy about whether he is dead or alive, i dont think hes dead personally as i wouldnt trust the americans word for it.

I cant see it being a lie, it would destroy the American government if it was later proved that he was alive

what like the lack of WMDs found in Iraq all it would mean is they have to change president at worst

It's so strange how Osama was the son of a multi-millionaire oil baron but chose to join the mujahadeen (not sure on spelling) then a terrorist group to fight the very country who helped his country defeat the Russian invasion.

If it's a lie or not, the same sort of puppet president who will carry on the 'war' because it's war or we have no oil, people need to stop letting their bull shit morales get in the way

C.R.A.F.T. wrote:

what like the lack of WMDs found in Iraq all it would mean is they have to change president at worst

I don’t think you can compare the two, it wasn’t just America that had “proof” of the WMD’s and Bush stayed in power. Sadam was more like Gaddafi in my opinion. Both killed there own people and supplied terrorists with weapons to commit murders around the world, Gaddafi supplied the IRA with weapons and explosives for years Gaddafi shouldn’t be in power but I think there going the right way in getting rid of him by supporting the people to do it them selves


Bin lid was the face of international terrorism and this is the USA saying we have got him by ourselves. If it turned out he was alive the USA would be the laughing stock of the world and who would then trust them? Also if he was alive and they were able to prove it, think of the way it would be used to prove that al-Qaeda has been right all along and how there Holy war is justified as the USA has lied to the world

i agree with mike on all of that. the idea that hes still alive and that america lied about it all is ridiculous. why would would they about such a thing? theres nothing unfeasible about tracking a courier and using him to find bin ladens compound, surveying it for nearly a year and then sending in 20 or so Navy SEAL's in 2 black hawks to kill or capture him. this is the USA we're talking about, not some 3rd world corrupt militia-run state.

americans would lose all respect from other nations if they lied about it and they'd gain nothing from lying.

apparently the pictures of bin laden's body are due to be released soon so all conspiracy theorists can STFU but as internet saying goes; haters gonna hate.

they released a press statement saying the photos are too disturbing and may provoke Al Qaeda to retaliate so they wont release them